The timing is part of the licensing requirement, the problem is that it was not advertised at time of purchase so people bought tickets with no idea of when they'd leave.

HiFreq wrote: Well, licensing agreement or not, we're really pi55ed off about this. Of course, we're glad to be going at all; over the moon, in fact, but this idea of leaving at 4:30 a.m. just acts as the final straw.

I agree; for some that time will be workable but as said the times should have been advertised at point of sale. The lack of information coming from GFL and Seetickets in regards to coach tickets is shocking. I know several people cutting their Sunday short as they have to get coaches at 4 in the morning on Monday.

I appreciate totally the position of GFL and more people travelling by coach or liftsharing needs to be encouraged. This does not encourage people to do so.

HiFreq wrote: I know it must be a ridiculous amount of work to organise and the festival is great, but come on?

It takes a year at least, this one has had two years worth of planning which is why I'm puzzled at such a simple mistake as not issuing times at POS.

HiFreq wrote: After last time getting flooded in 4 feet of water and losing most of our stuff, due to, in my own opinion, NOT the weather, but inadequate drainage in a field that was surely known to be a flooding hazard; they got it drained afterwards; why not make adequate preparation beforehand?  (and the stories of us lot being "rescued" and given alternative accommodation are massively exaggerated - no help arrived until hours later in the form of a Steward who told me he'd "just come for a look at all the fun", whilst smoking his spliff...), to this complete nightmare in getting tickets and now having to leave at "daft'o'clock", we're finished with the whole thing. Been going for over twenty years and we're washing our hands of it all.

I'm sorry you feel like this and to be blunt I've felt something the same. I'm surprised you never had more help as everyone I know stuck in those floods were helped out by the organisers. However I've complained about some of the stewards (the overwhelming majority of stewards are great) who are clearly just there for the freebie ticket and really don't give much of a toss for anything else.

HiFreq wrote: Can't describe how fed up we are. Bye, bye Glasto...

Have you thought of writing to Eavis himself?

 lets all hope it stays dry n sunny, this  is my 1st time to the festi and hope i have a better time then hifreq did....as for the coaches i think thats pretty messed up!!!!!  times should be advertised at point of sale. hope every one still enjoys the festi tho.

HiFreq wrote: I haven't thought of writing to Michael Eavis, as I'm sure he'll be far too busy to listen to my negative chatter. I don't know if he reads these boards, but he's more than welcome to speak to me, if he does!

He doesn't get the internet but he does read as many of the letters sent to him as he can, so try writing to the farm to make your point clear.

HiFreq wrote: I have nothing but admiration for what he has achieved, but nothing but contempt for the way things are going. I'm not suggesting that we go back to the place having too many @rseholes, like it did at one point, but there must surely be a better way? I don't know what that would be, if i did I'd be looking for a job with Michael and the gang.

I'm holding out full opinion on this years plans until after the festival. What is depressing is that for every positive step there seems to be as many new negative steps.

HiFreq wrote: I'm, honestly, a very reasonable chap, but it really is getting to the point where it's not worth it any more. I wish i had the answer, but it's heading the wrong way. All we need next is corporate ticket sales and preferential treatment for the wealthy and we're completely scuppered.

I think anyone who goes to football in the UK recognises whats happening to Glasto and that's a shame if it goes that way.

there is the option of packing up sunday putting all your kit in the nearest lock up to the coach pick up site party till the bus and load up get on and sleep the journy away

there are a lot of arsehole stewards but a lot of great helpfull people, I have been assisted on and off the site every year for 5 years (I am disabled) by asking for help, not by going down the route of caming disabled etc but asking for help and being patient, you have to remember they have to deal with a lot of twats and you don't know who or what they have just had to deal with before you